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2021-03-05
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09-081966
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What is the connection between pride, arrogance, modesty, and pretense? What is healthy, and what is destructive?

This page is a stub, created on 2021-03-05 (last updated on 2024-10-27). Its contents are notes on the issues and angles I want to address about this topic.


  • forms of pretense
    • modesty as pretending that one is worse than one actually is (playing oneself down)
    • what people usually call "arrogance" as pretending that one is better than one actually is
  • objective self-judgment as an alternative to pretense, rejecting the false dichotomy of modesty versus "arrogance", and how it is a prerequisite of genuine pride
  • why "arrogance" and "arrogant" are problematic smears / package deals
  • how "pride" is misunderstood (and its disastrous effects)
    • in the sense of others' perceptions/judgments (and how this relates to false self-esteem)
    • in the sense of healthy self-esteem and feeling good about one's accomplishments etc
  • modesty as an insidious form of "better than others" or other insecurities
  • connection to first- versus second-handedness
  • ego
    • When people characterize someone as having a "big ego", they typically mean something that, in reality, means that they have very little (genuine) ego.
    • When people talk about someone's modesty or humility, they often (but not always) mean that they have a non-bragging, quiet confidence that actually reflects having a strong, "big" (genuine) ego.